This is Sad...

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 10/29/2018 at 11:33 • Filed to: None

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RIP crew and passengers.

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Still, how do you crush such a new plane?

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/29/2018 at 11:43

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yeah.. caught that on me local news earlier.. apparently the plane was only a few months old... they already grounded it once to sort out some kind of technical difficulties (my news said the airline fixed the problem according to manufacturer guidelines but airline hasnt disclosed what the problem was)

wafflesnfalafel > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/29/2018 at 12:11

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I’m sure Boeing is freaking out right now...

ttyymmnn > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/29/2018 at 12:17

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Lion Air’s chief executive, Edward Sirait, told reporters the plane had suffered “a technical issue” on Sunday night but engineers had cleared it to fly on Monday morning.

“This plane previously flew from Denpasar to Jakarta,” he said. “There was a report of a technical issue which had been resolved according to procedure.” ( Guardian )

I have not yet heard the exact nature of this “technical issue.” It will be interesting to see if it had any bearing on the accident.

ttyymmnn > wafflesnfalafel 10/29/2018 at 12:17

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I imagine they already have a team in Jakarta. Freaking out? It’s too early to freak out, at least for Boeing. No other MAXs are falling out of the sky. 

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > wafflesnfalafel 10/29/2018 at 12:32

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It’s not like airlines have somewhere else to go if they cancel the thousands 737's they have on order. Airbus has trouble keeping up with the A320 orders they already have. The A220-300 could work for some Max 7 customers. Other than that? COMAC? Irkut? I don't think so. 

The Dummy Gummy > wafflesnfalafel 10/29/2018 at 12:34

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Lol na

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 10/29/2018 at 12:34

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They probably need to ground all their Max models, until investigators come up with an answer.  

Zaxbys > ttyymmnn 10/29/2018 at 12:35

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The technical issue (from the comments on Reddit ) was a malfunctioning altimeter and ground speed indicator. And the data recorder (probably not the correct name) showed that the plane had erratic altitude and was going faster than it should.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > ttyymmnn 10/29/2018 at 12:35

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I wonder if humans error has something to do with it. 

ttyymmnn > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 10/29/2018 at 13:16

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We shall see. P erhaps an improper/untrained reaction to an emergency situation. While it’s certainly possible, I doubt there was an issue with the manufacture of the plane.

thejustache > ttyymmnn 10/29/2018 at 13:19

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I flew on a Norwegian Airlines MAX to and from Dublin last month. Nothing too interesting to report other than the flight attendants couldn’t find the lever to release the arm rest on the end of a seat row for a handicap passenger, and the in flight wi-fi (which I had no intention of using) wasn’t installed yet. The flight crew confirmed it was only a couple of months old. There was quite a bit of smoke on engine startup before flying back (enough to smell burning oil in the cabin) but I know that can happen for a variety of reasons and is not unique to the plane.

ttyymmnn > thejustache 10/29/2018 at 13:21

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Is it the airline’s responsibility to install the wifi? I don’t know.

thejustache > ttyymmnn 10/29/2018 at 13:28

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According to them it was getting installed at the first major inspection date

Jay, the practical enthusiast > ttyymmnn 10/29/2018 at 13:31

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The airline I work for gets the planes delivered without wifi. It gets installed by an outside company that also maintains the system. For us it's common to have no wifi for a few months.

ttyymmnn > Jay, the practical enthusiast 10/29/2018 at 13:37

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That was my guess. Thanks.